Seventeen seconds (1980) > Yeh yeh yeh (The Obtainers / The Magspys)
The Obtainers · Yeh yeh yeh, Pussy wussy / Lifeblood, Bombs
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Recorded in July 1979 at Morgan Studios in Willesden. Released on May 1980. 100 copies in different colours. Produced and mixed by Robert Smith. Cover designed by Ric Gallup.
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Aug, 13 2008 4:42 PM
Do fakes of these exist to anyone's knowledge? Seems like they show up on ebay with more frequency than they should if only 100 exist. A blue one just sold for only around $300. Seems like this would be extremely easy to reproduce. I'd like to try to get one, but only if it were definitely authentic. If there are fakes, does anyone know how to tell the difference?
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Nov, 26 2010 2:26 AM
just a question...on the sticker I can see that the Obtainers play drums, guitars and vocals...I've found 2 audio file many years ago, always thinking that those songs were ripped from the 7". But...mmm....no guitars on the songs, and just a box used as a drum... I'm a little bit confused now...
Sep, 13 2010 6:57 AM
Damn it. I was feeling like Sherlock Holmes.
Sep, 12 2010 11:25 PM
No, it's 33 X 75 pence!!! Rob
Sep, 12 2010 11:12 PM
Oh look at the pen writing on the reverse side of the receipt where it reads "Delivery note". Isn't that 75+33? Looks like there were 108 copies not 100! :)
Sep, 12 2010 4:04 PM
Wow! so you DID find the file "Distant past"? That receipt together with the single would probably reach rocket price if offered on ebay :) Thank you soo much for the scan. Very nice piece.
Sep, 12 2010 2:34 PM
We've placed the receipt sent by robgoodey on item
Also please note Ric Gallup did not produce the single (he wasn't present at the recording session). He designed the cover.
Aug, 30 2010 12:15 PM
Thank you :) No rush. You may send it to email@example.com
Aug, 30 2010 11:49 AM
Hi, I will dig it out of the file marked "distant past"!! How do I send it to you? Rob
Aug, 30 2010 7:05 AM
I love to hear these kinds of stories! Thanks a lot Rob
Aug, 29 2010 9:49 PM
Thanks a lot robgoodey. So John77 was completely right. So it was released right after "Seventeen seconds" was out, that's a surprising update. Thanks to confirm it was recorded along with the Cult Hero songs. robgoodey if we may ask: any chance to send us a scan of that receipt? It'd be a nice piece of memorabilia to place next to the records.
Aug, 29 2010 2:16 PM
No worries, Any further questions on The Obtainers, post here, and I will endeavour to answer. Rob
Aug, 29 2010 2:05 PM
Great info, thanks robgoodey!
Aug, 29 2010 12:39 PM
Hi all, We recorded The Obtainers single at Morgan Studioes in Willesden, on the day of the 10th anniversary of the moon landing (July 1979), when the 1st Cult Hero single was recorded, not See The Children. We are on BV on it. I still have the receipt for 33 singles for sales, from Ric dated May 1980, so it took nearly a yesr to be released. Rob
Jul, 31 2010 4:04 PM
Hi Webby, Did not notice Rod's post, It is the same contact, he was one of the orig members, now in Henrys Head who are playing a cure reunion gig in Crawley next month
Jul, 31 2010 3:32 PM
"yellow,red,green,orange,blue and a few black and white ones", says robgoodey a few posts below. Coincidence here. Any chance you contact is confused with date of release? If "See the children" and "Cult hero" were recorded the same night -as explained in The Cure On Record book-, then it makes more sense it really was released in 1979... unless of course they waited 6+ months to release it.
Jul, 31 2010 3:10 PM
Hi Just thought you would like to know this bit of info I got today from one of the orig members of the Obtainers "John, There were, red, yellow, green, blue, orange, and a few black and white ones, so they are the scarcest! I have not heard of any fakes or bootlegs. Another thing about it that is always wrong, is that it was actually released in May 1980 not 1979"
Jul, 6 2010 11:27 PM
Sorry John, "Us" meaning "we" or "U.S."?
Jul, 6 2010 8:44 PM
Us Skinheads and punks in the UK were all sweetness and light ! Often seen helping old people across the road etc You lot are just a bunch of roughens !!
Jul, 6 2010 5:03 PM
Vandeeb: Same as in Sweden, at least nowadays. I think I recall reading that The Cure were popular amongst skinheads, because of their song Killing an Arab(?)
Jul, 6 2010 5:03 AM
More like "I WAS SKINHEAD IN 1979 SO I REMEMBER BEATING UP PEOPLE AT THESE SHOWS" But maybe I'm just biased by the skins I've known in the US.
Jul, 5 2010 8:25 PM
As sent by jchristophem:
Jul, 5 2010 6:03 PM
The obtainers have re appeared as a group called Henry's Head (they are playing at the rocket reunion next month) If anyone is going (I am hoping to but not 100%) maybe a good time to ask?
Jul, 5 2010 12:54 PM
"I WAS SKINHEAD IN 1979 SO I REMEMBER THESE BANDS PLAYING LOCAL PUBS". lol
Jul, 5 2010 9:44 AM
Nice to see a white one, hope it makes an appearence here sometime.I do beleive that coloured ones are official though.I know someone who received 1 or 2 coloured ones from Ric Gallup himslef, so i am in no doubt.Incidentally there is an article in this month's RC where this record features as one of the "Most Wanted", and the price tag is over Â£1100.I will scan the article to the Webmaster who can maybe attach it to this post.This guy's story is a bit sugar coated in my opinion, but the item looks genuine.
Jul, 5 2010 6:48 AM
mmm,very interesting reading. I think he has wrong to, and i dont beleive his story, it sounds to weird for me.
Jul, 5 2010 2:28 AM
Interesting item with a bit of a backstory. (Supposedly) the seller went to the same school as Robert... although he must be wrong about the colored ones being counterfeit. Considering we've had a member of the band post here about the colored versions, and a yellow one is in Daren's book!
Sep, 5 2008 4:08 PM
Celebrity? hardly, just a middle aged man enjoying remembering those days nearly 30 years ago.
Sep, 5 2008 12:37 PM
For sure everyone enjoyed reading your posts. Thanks very much robgoodey (Robin?) for showing up and giving all the info
Sep, 5 2008 8:21 AM
Wow, a celebrity visitor! Cheers! :) Also, thanks for filling out the blanks. Much appriciated!
Sep, 4 2008 11:33 PM
It is a genuine one then, best not disclose the "other stuff" for obvious reasons. I really can't remember how many of each colour, I think there was yellow,red,green,orange,blue and a few black and white ones.I think there were five different designs of insert,and some inserts were of different colours to the stickers with the single. Some also had the price stamped on the sleeve.
Sep, 4 2008 9:13 PM
Thanks again robgoodey. How many different colours are there? Same quantity for each colour? Regarding the run-off groove, the yellow copy on this site reads "Boiling over" (and some more stuff...). Is that right? Thanks in advance
Sep, 4 2008 5:27 PM
It was one pressing of 100, about 20 of which we sold personally to friends and family. You have to remember that people bought many of these because of us, they were not Cure fans, so when they see them selling on Ebay sometimes up to $750 (2001), they put there own copy up for sale. I put the one I used to play on there out of curiosity really.
Sep, 4 2008 5:12 PM
Thanks for the update robgoodey. Correction made. Can you confirm the number of copies in existence?
Sep, 4 2008 5:01 PM
I can assure you that the blue copy sold on ebay was 100% genuine. I was one of The Obtainers, and it was one of several copies I have owned from release. I think fakes can probably be spotted (if there are any), because the pressing is poor on the original and the sleeves brown very easily, even when kept out of light. There is also wording on the run out grooves.I have to say the copies pictured on this website seem rather too pristine to me. By the way Ric Gallup designed the sleeve, not produce the record.
Aug, 14 2008 9:31 PM
I was thinking something I wanted to share here. All the fakes I ever came across (that is Master Rooms acetates, 7" testpressings, CD-Rs etc) had one thing in common: they were all very, very NEW -and- in most cases, they looked clearly fakes at first glance once held on your hands. Needless to say, this doesn't mean a 20+ year old record has to look aged (I'm sure most of us here have very early singles in mint condition). But as said, to my experience all the fakes were mint and you could tell they were fakes easily for one reason or another (ie. photocopy labels or sleeves). So when you dont have the chance to touch the items before paying, my suggestion is try to get as high quality images as possible (highest possible resolution).
Aug, 14 2008 2:51 PM
Yeah, I'm sorry to always be bringing up fakes. It's just that this is the only place I can get any expert information... you guys are a great resource! Believe me, I spend a lot more time thinking about and looking at all of the amazing super-rare authentic items shown here than I do about counterfeits, even if my posts don't reflect that. /Zack
Aug, 14 2008 9:16 AM
greetings all, sorry to continue the talking about fakes when there are so many great authentic records to discuss, however this may be of interest to any potential buyers of test presses:
Aug, 13 2008 7:06 PM
I agree we've seen a significant number of copies on ebay over the last months, with a huge variety in colours. However, a very high selling price is likely to entice other owners to sell right after. Besides, I tend to believe you'd probably need the original to porperly make copies from, and that is limited to 100 (if we accept that small quantity as definite -?-). But it would come as no surprise that fakes were on the market, though.
Aug, 13 2008 5:48 PM
The seller of the blue-stickered one on ebay is from Crawley, the same town that Obtainers came from. I think that would make for pretty good odds, that at least that copy was authentic.
Aug, 13 2008 4:47 PM
I saw this with blue sticker to on ebay. But this wasn't completed. The outer sticking was missing. If i buy this i want it to be complete with both stickers. And i don't know if it exist fakes of this, sorry. /Lasse!
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